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1921 census
From: storm Fri 19 Feb 2010 10:02
 
Why is the 100 year rule still applied? Documents of far more significance are released under the 50 or even 30 year rule.
People born in 1921, may be still alive, but it's rather proprietorial in this day to use this is a bar to researchers.
1921 census
From: Paul (--@--.--) Fri 26 Feb 2010 15:53
 
Hi, i agree with you totally!

I cannot find out anything about my house/road or the district or anything because it was built in 1930, this means i will be dead before i can take a look!
What a fair system!!!
1921 census
From: Robert W STOREY (--@--.--) Mon 15 Mar 2010 20:57
 
I fully agree with Paul(Feb 26).Now that the Freedom of Information act is being so wildly used i think it is high time the 1920 census Act was amended.Possibly to 75years as opposed to 100years. This would give people 60years and onwards age group, the chance to research members of their families who they can actually relate to in real life.Also i am quite sure that any breach of confidentility after 75 years as opposed to 100years would be infinatesmal and have very little, if any effect,to the public.

R.W.S.
1921 census
From: Alan Smart (--@--.--) Sun 2 May 2010 12:50
 
Rules Rules - what about the freedom of information act. I am trying to research my family history, which is vague. The 1921 census and 1931 and 1941 (if they are done every ten years) could be of a great help. UK seems to be so secretive. Why can't we have access - Politians - Do we need them
1921 census
From: Jools Fri 14 May 2010 19:58
 
The 1931 census was destroyed in a fire and there was no 1941 census because of the war.

There was the 1939 Registration which you can now obtain records from, a snip at a non-refundable £42!
1921 census
From: David Fri 14 May 2010 20:15
 
It's only the England & Wales 1931 census that was lost in a fire before Scottish and Irish visitors point that out
1921 census
From: mairead Sat 29 May 2010 10:18
 
hi all i think the 1921 census should be open as im looking for where both my parents came from an i dont think i will be around for that long
1921 census
From: brian gibson Sat 5 Jun 2010 14:55
 
i am the youngest member of my family and because of the
governments strict and stupid 100 year rule on the 1921 census the
elderly members of my family will probably go to their graves
never knowing the answer to a mystery that will be revealed
in the 1921 census.
i have already waited 15 years to obtain this information and if
they all pass away without ever knowing i will be so dissapointed.
if the government can open m.i.5 documents about the i.r.a then why
can't my family find out information about the parentage of a family
member who was born in 1909
1921 census
From: Jane Mon 7 Jun 2010 14:54
 
The 1921 census should now be made available at a cost especially since the 1931 and 1941 censuses are not available for England and Wales for the reasons stated by others. The 100 year rule should be reconsidered to allow people access to the census. It is now nearly 90 years ago and the number of people alive at that time and now must be minimal.
1921 census
From: iris dempster Fri 18 Jun 2010 20:49
 
hi iv been trying to find my fathers birth name but at a miss im not abule to find him under the name that we all have its a puzzle to us all no birth on him so what can i do not noing were to look next
1921 census
From: Guy Etchells (--@--.--) Sat 3 Jul 2010 9:38
 
Access to the 1921 census

In times of economic stress such as these the government might be open to any idea that could generate useful revenue and the 1921 census is one such project.

A way to generate income, provide jobs and boost the economy all at the same time without making cuts.
Such a policy must be popular with the electorate.

The National Audit Office report on the release of the 1901 census stated that the internet access to the 1901 generated revenues of £4.5 million by October 2003, less than one year.
In five years that amounts to a conservative sum of £22.5 million and useful figure for even a government to play with.

I would therefore like to suggest a campaign to encourage the government to release the 1921 now.
Now is the time to write to Cabinet Ministers and Members of Parliament we may be able to obtain a change in policy.

I am sure writing to MPs is the most successful way of making them take notice but I have added a posting to the new hmg Your Freedom site for those who do not like writing.

http://tinyurl.com/2vju6b9

If you want access to the 1921 census please visit and add your vote there
Your vote is important please use it

Cheers
Guy
1921 census
From: Yvonne Tue 28 Sep 2010 14:58
 
I agree with the fact that it should be released early, 100 years is ridiculous, what does the census show that people would object to. I am in the same boat as others, I am trying to get information on my grandparents who passed away years ago and by the time I get this information my parents will be gone without knowing their full history, I do not really agree with income generation for the government, I pay enough in taxes without paying more for what should be public information,
1921 census
From: S.West Wed 19 Jan 2011 12:29
 
I think it is ridiculous to withold the 1921 Census until 2022.I have been researching my family for years and am waiting to unravel a mystery abou my father who was born in 1914. The thought of waiting another 11 years for this is outrageous. Hardly anyone who appears on the 1921 cenus is alive today. Even if they are , they would have been little children and I am sure they would not object to this document being made available.
1921 census
From: sylvia thomson Thu 17 Feb 2011 10:18
 
I agree with everyone, I need to find out where my mother was in 1921 she was put in a childrens home but all we know is that it was in Middlesbrough and she would have been about 7 or 8, it would solve a mystery for us, I will be too old in 2022 or dead.
1921 census
From: James Mon 21 Feb 2011 13:22
 
why the secrecy?

will the release of the 2021 census compromise national security in any way? I think not

just another example of out of touch micro managing secretive government
1921 census
From: James Mon 21 Feb 2011 13:38
 
why the secrecy?

will the release of the 2021 census compromise national security in any way? I think not

just another example of out of touch micro managing secretive government
1921 census
From: Margaret Craner Wed 23 Feb 2011 22:51
 
When so many other documents are online, and readily available, it seems pointless to keep the 1921 Census out of the public domain. We are now left unable to sort out the truth about the whereabouts of family members who are now diseased. The mysteries will never be solved if we do not get access to the 1921 Census until 2022. I will be too old by then to continue the research. Why is this being kept secret when most of those on it are dead already? Let us have this information freely - there is no valid reason not to. Change the 100 year Rule to 75 yrs, which is far more realistic.
1921 census
From: frances elliott Mon 7 Mar 2011 12:56
 
Yes I agree we should have the 1921 census at our finger tips, soon I will be too old to make contact in person with the missing members of my family.
1921 census
From: Sue Wed 23 Mar 2011 20:08
 
I too agree the 1921 census should be released asap. I am in my late fifties both my parents died young and have very little info from the 1911 census to use. The 1921 census would show both sets of my grandparents which would help to fill gaps in my family tree. Also my paternal grandfather had a first wife and children between 1911 and 1921 so would help solve some mysterys as to who they were and where they lived.
1921 census
From: G Gilchrist Fri 25 Mar 2011 16:36
 
We must remember that some people on the 1921 Census will still be alive. People who completed the 1921 Census were promised total confidentiality for 100 years. Although that is a long time ago, it is important not to call into question the validity of the equivalent promise on modern Census forms. That could deter people from filling in the Census form, reducing the response rate and making the Census results less accurate. (crib from the the Author.)
1921 census
From: Clive Sat 26 Mar 2011 11:51
 
"People who completed the 1921 Census were promised total confidentiality for 100 years."

There's the rub as not many if any of those who completed the forms at the time are still here. I'm fortunate in that my mum & her sister are still with us and very spritely for their ages. However they have no recollection of this being done or what was said at that time.
1921 census
From: Leslie Owen (--@--.--) Thu 31 Mar 2011 10:43
 
I am trying to trace relatives in Senghennydd, Caerphilly, Mid Glamorgan with the surname Owen
John Owen who died at the pit disaster of 1913is a great great uncle
Ellen Owen , John's mother, contributed to local newspapers
My Grand father , William Edward Owen,of 62 Caerphilly Road, son of Richard Owen, worked in the pits and then as an insurance agent, married Hannah Williams of 72 Caerphilly Road.

The marriage was witnessed by Elizabeth Owen

After the marriage the family lost all contact with the Owen side of the family
1921 census
From: Fred Beach Sun 3 Apr 2011 12:08
 
People here do seem to want the census released, but I came across a few who were going balistic at the thought of it. I doubt if the 1921 census form covered any more information than the 1911 census, the civilian equivalent of Name, Rank, and Number. plus job, where born. If you are researching and wanting to move forward to the decades between the wars it would be so helpful. Sensitive information?. I could find out about any of you by simply walking down your street and asking a few neighbours, Look how freely we give out or can access information about each other today. I would be happy for the 1951 census (which I appear on)to be released.
Last thought, the census info is public information, so under the freedom of information act does that mean although the 1921 census can't be published, we have the right to go to where the archive is stored and see our family details? If so no doubt it will be very expensive.
1921 census
From: Chris Sat 30 Apr 2011 19:58
 
In the USA, American censuses appear to be released after 70 years or thereabouts. The 1931 USA census has been available for some time online.

So, I would support calls for the UK 1921 census to be made available now. Perhaps we should go for a 75 year rule.
1921 census
From: Chris Sat 30 Apr 2011 21:57
 
In the USA, American censuses appear to be released after 70 years or thereabouts. The 1931 USA census has been available for some time online.

So, I would support calls for the UK 1921 census to be made available now. Perhaps we should go for a 75 year rule.
1921 census
From: paul morries Mon 2 May 2011 17:38
 
if the press can use the freedom of information act to obtain certin information then surley this should apply to the 1921 census.

i support an 80 year block on the information before it is released.
1921 census
From: David Mon 2 May 2011 17:53
 
Unfortunately there are some exceptions to the Freedom of Information Act and the census is one of them.
1921 census
From: Nicky D Mon 9 May 2011 23:01
 
The information contained within the census form is peersonal information and is therefore covered under the Data Proptection Act - however, the DPA only applies to those who are living!
1921 census
From: Mike Tomkinson Mon 8 Aug 2011 8:15
 
I have raised an e-petition at https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/ - search for 1921 or the word census.

I suggest that if you want the 1921 Census data releasing early by amendment of the 100 year rule that you sign my petition.

It will require at least 100,000 signatures before it is taken seriously, I fear.
1921 census
From: Lee Rimmer Sat 27 Aug 2011 7:01
 
Mike

I have signed your e-petition and glad to see the numbers steadily rising over the last couple of days. This issue sparked a 'heated debate' with the missus, also a family history enthusiast, who is against early release. If anyone is interested, she has posted on her site - Access the 1921 UK Census Now? 30 Arguments For and Against

http://www.abroadintheyard.com/access-1921-uk-census-now-30-arguments-for-against-early-release/

Regards
Lee
1921 census
From: Janet Sun 28 Aug 2011 20:48
 
Like many others I feel the 1921 census should be available. The USA 1921 and 1931 census records have been for several years. I can not see the information is going to affect our national security.
It will help many families to trace their history and from what I have been reading in the earlier messages, bring peace of mind to many in finding answers.
1921 census
From: Kerrie Hopps (--@--.--) Mon 29 Aug 2011 0:30
 
Who do we contact so we can force this change in ruling, it babarick and stopping us from locating missing family and giving us a life, people will always be living, can anyone give me advise who I contact to make this an election problem and whioch party will step up it needs to get out in public, there are lost generations because of govts laws and how they handled things inn the past, they talk about apologising to lost genrations, it still going on! and displaced families through no fault of our own next they will say like in New Zealand" its the privacy rule" what any easy excuse to hide behind, every sitaution should be on merrit.
Thank
1921 census
From: pamela campbell Thu 1 Sep 2011 9:35
 
I was born in 1937 to a 42 year old mother. I feel that there is no reason why the 1921 census should not have been released after 50 years as this will reveal so much more information related to my past than at present. There is nobody alive whom I can ask. My eldest sister was born in 1919. She died five years ago and my second sister was born in 1927. She is now suffering dementia. She is in the position that she can recall her early life extremely clearly when shown early photographs of family members and I feel it would be of help and comfort to her if I could glean more vital information for her from the 1921 census.
1921 census
From: Gaylene Sat 3 Sep 2011 22:10
 
what a shame we have to wait so long ill be to old to care or dead by 1921 and the UK census is the best way us in new zealand can trace most of our english relatives and most things only wait 50yrs to be released and its not as if its a national secret
1921 census
From: Storm Tue 6 Sep 2011 17:25
 
It is very frustrating not to have the information available that might solve our heritage research problems. I feel, like the majority on here, that, considering how close we are, that the 100 year rule could be lifted. I believe the 1911 census was released a little before schedule; however, if the promise was made to withhold the confidential information for a century , give or take a few months, then that must be adhered to.
After all, we must respect the past, no matter how tantalisingly near yet far, we are hell bent on finding out about it.
1921 census
From: Philip Nicholls Tue 6 Sep 2011 20:23
 
How do you go about getting the 1921 census released early. Who do you have to write to?
1921 census
From: Gary Wallace-Potter Fri 4 Nov 2011 17:32
 
I have read a number of the posts on the subject of the 1921 Census, and completely agree with the general consensus.
The 100yr closure is a very outdated and just completely bureaucratic; there is no valid reason for this Census or any others not to be released to the public domain much sooner.
For the researcher this data is a goldmine of information, and as previously stated by many, any ancestors that were included in 1921 census are either so elderly that they suffer from dementia, etc, or are already dead.
Lets have some common-sense for a change !!
1921 census
From: Pete Sun 20 Nov 2011 15:53
 
I am all for it, but everyone is missing the point. How much will it cost to produce it!. Even if they started now it would take a couple of years before it was rolled out in full. Then it would take at least that time again before it started to make a profit.
So in todays climate its a non starter.
1921 census
From: David Sun 20 Nov 2011 23:55
 
Ancestry and findmypast (and maybe others) would be queuing up if they had the chance to make the 1921 census available. Just look at the 1911 census which findmypast has had for nearly 3 years but Ancestry still believe its worthwhile investing in their own brand new transcription which is becoming available now.
1921 census
From: Tony Sat 7 Jan 2012 17:16
 
To all you Family Geneologists out there, to make a real impact with the Census Records disclosure, please go to the "e petitions" website and sign the "MAKE CENSUS RESULTS PUBLIC AFTER 50 YEARS" petition, this petition closes on 5/8/12, with only 70 signatures, it needs a very big boost to get to the 100k target to get the Government to debate this issue.
The Census 100 year disclosure is out of date and needs a total change of thought.
1921 census
From: historymadd (--@--.--) Sun 29 Jan 2012 0:22
 
hi all

has anyone considered that 1921 was only 3 years after world war one ???

The amount of people killed and the family circumstances at that time may have been one where your business was your business and the government at that time did not want to be too insensitive.

many people on here want this released early do you think the people at that time would want it released early revealing many heartaches and opening up old issues ?????

simply i doubt it and people alive in the 1960s were very aware of these issues and it seems to me that is why the 100 year rule was important. our world is a lot more open now more so than it was then

any on agree ??/

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